Post by Flint on Jan 1, 2018 18:00:41 GMT 1
So, I'm planning to bring an half-human in here and would like some opinions about that
First of, I got a basic idea about the tribe, the circumstances and how the child turns out, but I stumbled across some more... scientific problems.
Starting with the point, that in canon, there aren't any hybrids. The Pinis even stated that there wouldn't be any,ever. But this seems to be more a case of storytelling than of it being possible in manners of genetic – there's a what-if called King's Cross where Cutter is the son of Bearclaw and a human huntress, so it should work out somehow. (According to that story, it was rather unpleasant for both sides - should it be like that?)
I wonder, do we even want to have halfbreeds here? In my opinion it would be a nice option for some twists, what with all the different experiences with humans, but shouldn't be a common thing.
Second I wondered how long pregnancy would be – the what-if answers it with “less than a full turn”, which I'd take for the human-usual 9/10 months. That doesn't really line up with what my research about animal hybrids brought for. It seems, that in nature hybrid childs are usually born somewhere in the middle between the gestation times of the race from mother and father. For example, horse (335-345 days) and donkey (360-375) gives mule (315-369) or lion (110 days) and tiger (93-112) gives liger (100). But these arent't that far from each other, while we are talking about more than a year difference for humans and elves. Even if taking the middle with about 17 months, that would be twice as long as a normal human pregnancy – I could imagine that the child might be premature born (for an elf or the middle of both) or that the human mother might not be able to give birth without a cesarean section (which, depending on the time period, would kill her).
Also, while I can totally understand the want to have the best parts of elf and human combined, that's just not how genetics work. Unless one of the parents got really dominant genes, you get a blended mix of both – like, medium height, ears that are neither round nor pointed, weaker magic (unless there is a chromosome for magic out there, but I suppose none of us has an answer to that), limbs that don't seem right (maybe not crippled or twisted, they have similar enough anatomy, but I think like wrong proportions?)
And fertility – are hybrids able to have children or are all of them infertile? Nature provides us with anything from infertile through only females fertile and only with father of race A and mother of race B fertile, not with mother of race A and father of race B to generating a fully independent new race.
Anyone with different ideas? Does it matter at all or am I thinking to scientific here?
First of, I got a basic idea about the tribe, the circumstances and how the child turns out, but I stumbled across some more... scientific problems.
Starting with the point, that in canon, there aren't any hybrids. The Pinis even stated that there wouldn't be any,ever. But this seems to be more a case of storytelling than of it being possible in manners of genetic – there's a what-if called King's Cross where Cutter is the son of Bearclaw and a human huntress, so it should work out somehow. (According to that story, it was rather unpleasant for both sides - should it be like that?)
I wonder, do we even want to have halfbreeds here? In my opinion it would be a nice option for some twists, what with all the different experiences with humans, but shouldn't be a common thing.
Second I wondered how long pregnancy would be – the what-if answers it with “less than a full turn”, which I'd take for the human-usual 9/10 months. That doesn't really line up with what my research about animal hybrids brought for. It seems, that in nature hybrid childs are usually born somewhere in the middle between the gestation times of the race from mother and father. For example, horse (335-345 days) and donkey (360-375) gives mule (315-369) or lion (110 days) and tiger (93-112) gives liger (100). But these arent't that far from each other, while we are talking about more than a year difference for humans and elves. Even if taking the middle with about 17 months, that would be twice as long as a normal human pregnancy – I could imagine that the child might be premature born (for an elf or the middle of both) or that the human mother might not be able to give birth without a cesarean section (which, depending on the time period, would kill her).
Also, while I can totally understand the want to have the best parts of elf and human combined, that's just not how genetics work. Unless one of the parents got really dominant genes, you get a blended mix of both – like, medium height, ears that are neither round nor pointed, weaker magic (unless there is a chromosome for magic out there, but I suppose none of us has an answer to that), limbs that don't seem right (maybe not crippled or twisted, they have similar enough anatomy, but I think like wrong proportions?)
And fertility – are hybrids able to have children or are all of them infertile? Nature provides us with anything from infertile through only females fertile and only with father of race A and mother of race B fertile, not with mother of race A and father of race B to generating a fully independent new race.
Anyone with different ideas? Does it matter at all or am I thinking to scientific here?